Chris Grainger: 1:38

Welcome to the Lion Within Us, a podcast serving Christian men who are hungry to be the leaders God intends you to be. I'm your host, chris Granger. Let's jump in. All right, fellas, meet episode time. Let's go, ok.

Chris Grainger: 1:49

So the scripture of the week this week is a reminder Exodus 14, verse 14. Remember that. 1-4-1-4. Ok, there's, the Lord will fight for you. You need only to be still. Love that verse.

Chris Grainger: 2:01

Fellas Spent a lot of time unpacking that verse in our spiritual kickoff episode. Go back one of your podcast feed. If you get a chance. Listen to that Really.

Chris Grainger: 2:10

Hopefully that brought you an encouraging message, particularly if you're going through a difficult season right now and we all get it. I always talk, but there's three seasons. You're either in a trial, you're directly in it, you're coming out of a trial, or you're getting ready to go into a trial. It's just those three. So if you're in that trial right now and you're in the battle, just know that we are praying for you. We'd love to pray for you directly. I'd love for you to just reach out and just let us know how we can encourage you. And, by the way, the easiest way to reach out to us is within the Lion Within Us community. The daily spiritual kickoff is free, so just go start that. That's an easy way to get plugged into what we're doing and from there we'll show you other ways that we try to encourage, equip and help you be the leader that God intends you to be.

Chris Grainger: 2:57

So today we have Rob Rene on. He was just a fun conversation, he was really. His story, which he's going to share, was very impactful. His life was completely transformed after a near fatal accident and this is a pretty, pretty major accident that he went through. And since going through that accident and going through, he caused two trucks. He went from getting hit by a truck first to the second truck of his life, really just being disruptive. And what he's done, through being and taking steps rather of obedience to what God's called him to do, it's pretty incredible.

Chris Grainger: 3:34

So he's founded a wonderful company called Exodus Strong. He's helping people break free from big pharma. That's it. I mean, that's really what he's after and how, what God has laid on his heart. He's got a goal also with that company to help 1 million people read the Bible every day and guide their ways toward a healthy, more vibrant type of life. So, man, it's pretty great. I mean, he's just a fun guy, full of energy, and we're hoping you enjoy this conversation with my friend, rob Rene. Well, rob, welcome to the Lion Within Us. How are you doing today?

Rob Rene: 4:13

I am fantastic. Thank you so much, Chris.

Chris Grainger: 4:16

Oh, I'm excited to have you on the show for sure. Before we get into your story, just tell us something fun about you that maybe not many people know about.

Rob Rene: 4:24

Oh my gosh, that's a fun one, Maybe something that people don't know about. That's fun is I used to love running. I was a young, young whippersnapper and I ended up winning a national cross country championship, like in ninth grade. Um, that really surprised me and, uh, you know, changed the rest of my life. Uh, just that, uh, that period of time. So that's something that most, most people don't know about me.

Chris Grainger: 4:53

What's the distance? So what was the distance? How far were you running there?

Rob Rene: 5:03

Yeah, it was uh. It was like uh, um, it wasn't a 10k, so I think it was a 8k, um, no, it was not, because it was shorter than a 5k.

Rob Rene: 5:08

I remember that. So it was okay. It was ninth grade, so it was young. I can't remember the, the meters, like the 3 000 meters or something like that. It was uh really freezing cold. And in cincinnati, ohio, and uh, ohio, I had to run three different races. I went regionally and won my region. Then I had to go to a super region and won the super region. Then I went to nationals and did that. After I won that I was like, okay, I guess I might have a little talent in running and that became a big focus of my life, of my, my youth. I wanted to be a professional runner so I thought that's what I thought I was going to do for for a long time.

Chris Grainger: 5:53

Do you still run?

Rob Rene: 5:55

Um, I do, Um, I. I don't run like I used to, but I still run. Probably three days a week, you know, go out and run three or four miles with my beautiful wife. So yeah. Yeah.

Chris Grainger: 6:07

I love it, love it. Well, let our listeners get to know who you are a little bit. Rob, will you mind sharing some of your story and just kind of how we got connected?

Rob Rene: 6:15

You bet you bet you know part of my, my, my fate stories, and just an interesting one. I grew up as an Episcopalian but, man, I did not enjoy church. It was like one of those things. I was a young kid that just didn't. It was like really boring. To me, especially, the Episcopal church was just like so step by step and process oriented and just like wow, super duper boring. And I remember getting out of church one time and it says mom, she's like what? And I said I'm so excited, she's like why.

Rob Rene: 6:50

I said because we're done with church and she was like, oh no, she goes, this isn't working the way I wanted it to right. So it was good that my mom and dad raised me in church, but I just didn't have a heart for it, nor wasn't, I think, officially saved, even though I went through christening and I I did said the, said the right things, but I just didn't have him in my heart Right, didn't bring bring the Lord into my heart. And it took took quite a for me as even an adult, to get to the point where, man the last six years I'm on fire for the Lord and I'm so excited about my relationship with Him and what I'm doing and trying to do for His kingdom that really transitioned from being a christer right A person that goes to church on Christmas and Easter that's right To a person who is on fire for him and really wants to make a difference in the world. And the difference isn't for me at all. It's the difference to make an impact on the kingdom and that's what drives me every day.

Rob Rene: 7:53

I'm a businessman, I'm trying to build a kingdom business and the only reason I'm trying to build a kingdom business is so I could have a big impact on his kingdom.

Rob Rene: 8:01

If I'm sitting on my couch and playing video games and watching sports and not not doing anything, I'm doing zero for for his kingdom and I've just transitioned my whole life to where, man, I really don't watch professional sports anymore. I occasionally watch maybe some collegiate basketball, just because that's pretty darn fun, but I don't play video games anymore. It's like I'm either studying or just trying to figure out a way to grow a business and that I can have enough revenue that I can really share and have a really big impact on on the world and specifically for his kingdom. So that's why I love your show and what you're doing for for men is like I'm, I'm on fire and I want people to learn from my mistakes that that I, you know, had and did, and I want to. I want to get them on fire for the Lord, like I am, so that we can go all collectively together and and make a difference in this world.

Chris Grainger: 9:01

100%, rob. So I mean, what happened? You said, was it six years ago? Something, something shifted and you're on fire for the Lord and that's awesome, because so many guys just stay stuck. So the fact that you have flipped it, man, I'm sure that would be encouraging to a lot of guys.

Rob Rene: 9:19

Yeah, I call this my two truck story. So if I'd like to go back to when I was that runner, right, when I went I actually got a full ride running scholarship to a division one school so I was like really doing well. I made the U S junior team, I was the second best miler so I ran a mile in college and there's a second best miler, 19 years and younger. So in the country and made, made a touring team and went and went to different countries and raced for the United States, had big USA Jersey on. It was just the coolest experience of my life. And then that winter, after that event, I ended up winning one of the races against five different other countries, which was just super exciting to me, right that I'd beat the best runners, best milers out of you know, five different countries. I beat the boy who beat me at our, our national. He he barely came by the finish line and you know it ends to me out, uh, in our national championship. And then when we did the international races I the first race out there, I beat everybody. So I was super, super excited. I was just like I'm fired. I'm like, okay, this is this is it. I'm going to make the Olympics next year. I'm going to. I'm going to just reach my goals and become a professional runner.

Rob Rene: 10:34

And then I was out on a training run with my friend about a 10 mile training run in the winter in Utah on a training run with my friend about a 10 mile training run in the winter in Utah and it was cold and snowy and the road was covered with snow. And we were out on that run and all of a sudden my friend was running right behind me we're running single file on this back country road and he jumped into the ditch. My friend did and yelled my name and I turned around to see what he was doing and all of a sudden I see this four by four truck just sliding right towards me and that four by four truck slid right into my hip and hit me in the hip and threw me 36 feet and I landed on my face and knocked me out and bloodied my whole entire side of my face and broke my pelvis in multiple places and banged up my kneecap and I was lying there on the side of the road unconscious and then I had a bloody nose earlier in the run and it was clogging my throat. So, just to make a long story short, I should have died that day and the Lord saved me. And my friend literally reached into my throat and unclogged my throat, so he knew I had the bloody nose, he could tell I wasn't breathing and he had enough smarts to go unclog my throat or I just wouldn't have had oxygen and I would have perished. But thank goodness he did do that and by the time the paramedics got there 12 minutes later, they woke me up with smelling salts and you know.

Rob Rene: 12:03

So, surviving that period, you know, was amazing, just like it was really a difficult period of my life from a young man's perspective, because that was my goal in life. I'd lost everything I'd worked to my entire life up to that, 19 or 20 years old, when it happened, was to be a runner. Right, that was my whole goal. And then, all of a sudden, for it to become crashing to an end in an instant was really really difficult timeframe for me. So I went into really kind of a depressed mode in the respect that I couldn't be around runners. I couldn't be around running. I couldn't be around runners. I couldn't be around running. I couldn't be around the track. I couldn't walk down a sidewalk and have cars coming from behind me. It was just a really negative part of my life.

Rob Rene: 12:51

But I had this feeling right, why did I get saved? Why did he save me? And so I had that, that feeling in the back of my mind for for decades. Literally I was like why, there's gotta be a purpose, and I never really understood why. But now I really honestly believe in this last six years that I'm finally stepping into that purpose. And now that I'm stepping into that purpose, I can look back at my life and see specifically how he's trained me right To. Almost everything that he's done or that's happened in my life is by design. It's like so crazy for me to do that, but like, let's take the running, for example. It's like I really learned how to nurture my body and use nutrition for my body in order to fuel it really well.

Rob Rene: 13:40

I read a book that was called Eat to Win when I was young and it was all about nutrition. Right, if you feed your body well, you have better energy during your running and racing. And that was so true because my friends would be eating hot dogs and hamburgers and junk food and I would be fueling my body really well, and I always had a good ending of the race because I had that extra fuel and I was like, how does he have such a good kick? Right, it's because it wasn't. You know, maybe I had some God given talent, obviously, but I really believe it's because of the nutrition. So that nutrition cycles back around to my second truck story.

Rob Rene: 14:19

And the second truck story is I was a sales professional for decades. I ended up going into the corporate world and did what the world told me to do. The world told me that I need to go get a college degree, I need to go get a full-time job and I need to get married and have three children and have a white picket fence and watch TV and watch professional sports and gamble and play video games, and I didn't have time to spend with the Lord much, and I didn't have time to research what was going on in the world much. And then boom, the second truck hit me. Um, and the second truck was the same truck that hit everybody else, though. So this is a pandemic, because it is my second truck and the reason why I call it the second truck is it really had a similar impact. My, my sales career just came to a halt and, uh, cause they? They couldn't. I was a traveling sales guy. I was like I lived in Oregon and I'd cover the whole Northwest and they couldn't fly, right. So they're like, well, we're just going to downsize the sales team until we figure out what this pandemic is going to do.

Rob Rene: 15:30

So for the first time in my life, I had to sit back and say what's going on with the world? And then what's going on? How do I protect my family? Right, that was my first thoughts. How do I, how do I save my family from this crazy um, you know, disease or whatever you want to call? Call COVID at the at the time. And I went back to nutrition. So I'm like, gosh, I'm going to go help my family, make sure that they stay healthy. So I'm going to go create some supplements that are going to help my, my family. And that was my initial thought.

Rob Rene: 16:00

And lo and behold, I started working on reading and researching. And that's when I really got frustrated, because it was the first time in my life that I'd actually could research topics. And so I remember, with COVID, I knew as an athlete how nutrition was really important, like we talked about, and vitamin D. This one doctor was talking about vitamin D, like vitamin D is like the most basic thing coming from the sun, right From our Lord. Basically it's like he designed this whole world. And so I knew vitamin D wasn't bad.

Rob Rene: 16:37

And they were vilifying this doctor. So I thought, man, this doctor must be really bad. Let's go research why this doctor is so bad. And they were vilifying this doctor. So I thought, man, this doctor must be really bad. Let's go research why this doctor is so bad. So researched up and down, right and left and as deep as I could, and the doctor was fine. But it sounded like why? What's the motivation? Why would they be? Why would they be vilifying this guy? Why would they be attacking this guy? And then that opened up the whole can of worms for me. That just changed my entire life. I started researching what was happening.

Rob Rene: 17:04

I learned a lot about the takeover of our health care system back in the early 1900s. And our medical system was just transitioned dramatically by the Rockefellers back in the early 1910s and they created this report called the Flexion Report. And again, I'll try to shorten the story because it's a long one, but they took over our medical schools and you could only study. If you wanted to become a doctor, you could only go to one of their approved medical schools, and in those medical schools they are only taught pharmaceutical-based medicine. So it wasn't on natural health care. And at the time, in the early 1900s, there was 50% of our doctors or practitioners were holistic ones, right? They're like hey, eat well, use stuff from the earth. You know, do things naturally and your body will do what it needs to do. And then the other 50% were were, uh, you know, trained practitioners to help with other things, right? Uh, nowadays you fast forward to today you know how many holistic practitioners are? It's like, you know, not even, uh, not even a percentage point, right? It's like not even. Uh, they just, they, just they vilified those holistic doctors. They wouldn't give them jobs because they weren't part of their medical school system. They were called quacks.

Rob Rene: 18:25

So I started going down this whole rabbit hole and it really, really, really made me mad. And that's when my life with the Lord became a true relationship and I started reading the Bible and I started praying and trying to understand what was going on in the world. And I'm like, okay, I'm really frustrated that all the information that I've learned my first 55 years of my life or whatever it was. Now it was probably first 50 years of my life. Uh was was a lie. In a lot of cases it was just like I didn't realize we're, we as a, as the United States were being fed an agenda, and that really made me mad. I'm like, okay, we're, we're listening to the news. And then I learned about this other uh component called mockingbird media. So just the people that are interested.

Rob Rene: 19:14

I think it's a fascinating thing to study, because you go back and look at what Mockingbird Media is and back in 1970, I believe the CIA created this Mockingbird Media and they'd deploy CIA assets across all of the media organizations and then at four o'clock in the morning they call them the 4 am talking points. They would distribute those talking points to all of the people in all these organizations and they would each take that same talking point and say the same thing, but maybe just a little bit differently, right? So you'd hear it on your way to work on the radio, you'd hear it in the news the next evening watching the news, and then you'd read the newspaper and you would read the same thing, but it's all slightly different by different people. And so, after you hear the same thing three different times, you assume it's true. Right, and, as human nature, that's what we do.

Rob Rene: 20:14

And they were, they were masterful at this. So they literally have carried upon, carried this mockingbird media for decades now, and it's really frustrating when I think during COVID, if you paid attention to some of the news articles and the stuff that was happening, it was an agenda that was being pushed on us and the Mockingbird media was in full force. The you can see those clips I don't know if you've seen them, but where they have all the different tv stations who talk about a topic and they're all saying the exact same script. Right, and uh, it's just clear that they, they have been doing this and it's really really well thought out. Well, it's really really well thought out. Well, it's really smart. Not good for us, but it's a really smart agenda on theirs. They can get us to believe almost anything by following this strategy.

Rob Rene: 21:09

And, man, that really pissed me off because I'm like, okay, great, so not only is our healthcare system messed up and not here to help us, it's here to gain money into a big pharma conglomeration of people who aren't here to help us, they're here to just make money, and that really made me mad. There's no care that is for the individual. I'm like that's not God's design of how health care should work. And then I realized that our country was not you know, it was just deceiving us from information and they were controlling what we thought and how we thought, and that's why I saw all this division going on. It's like they created the division, right they would. They would literally tell the story about maybe color, maybe it's sex, maybe it's LGBT, all the different types of ways they can try to divide us. They're trying to divide us every way they possibly can, and so that really fresh-raised too.

Rob Rene: 22:06

It's like we, as a kingdom, we're all one right, it doesn't matter what color you are, it doesn't matter what sex you are, it doesn't matter what sex you are, it doesn't matter you know anything. It's just we're all the same. And so that really made me mad too. And that's when I just started digging into the word right. I'm like, okay, lord, what's happening? What am I learning? Why am I learning this? What is your plan for me? How can I help the world?

Rob Rene: 22:27

And that became my desire to just make change. Right, how can I, little me, make a change, and a positive change in this world? And that's when I just said, okay, I'm going to go create health solutions for people, because I think our health system is broke and I'm going to do as much research as I can about how to help people. And then I'm going to try to build a kingdom business. And that kingdom business is not, for me, everything I own. That doesn't matter if the shoes on my feet or the house that I'm in or the computer screen I'm looking at are not mine. They're all the Lord's, and so I'm going to use every asset he's given me to try to help make an impact on his, his world. So that's been fun. I created this product called Exodus. It's 100% a God creation. It was like man. I was doing all the research on.

Chris Grainger: 23:20

Let's hold up real quick. We're going to take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll dig into the Exodus everything you're doing there, rob. We'll be right back guys.

Rob Rene: 23:28

Sounds great.

Chris Grainger: 23:32

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Chris Grainger: 24:25

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Rob Rene: 25:04

Yeah, sounds fantastic. So Exodus Strong is 100% a God-created solution and idea. We really wanted to make an impact in this world and so I was doing all the research of all the biblical ingredients in the Bible, right, one of the things I'm like oh, there's fascinating things in the Bible and I just kept coming back to natural health. Right, it's like back to my beginning of when I was a runner. It's like if we understand, as a human, how to put the right things in our body that God put on the earth, that that's how our body was designed. He designed us the most incredibly awesome and complex body ever, right it's. People are still trying that. You know, doctors and scientists are still trying to figure out the body. They still haven't figured it all out. So it's just fascinating how complex it is. But, man, if you go back to the basics and you start giving your body what it needs, the nutrients that it needs, and it guess what it starts healing itself. God designed it that way, right, god just designed our bodies to heal.

Rob Rene: 26:10

And the problem is we've really destroyed our bodies, and a lot of it is not by us. It's by other things that are happening. Our air is totally corrupt and messed up. Our food supply is 70% ultra processed foods. There's very little nutrients in our food today compared to the past and there's lots of issues 5G, the 5g and all those those uh things that are that are bad for our bodies. So there's lots of problems, uh. But you can see in the United States how bad our healthcare system is. We have like the worst healthcare system in the world and we have the most wealthy wealthy organization. We spend way more money than any other country on on healthcare. So it's just, uh, what you? It's clearly broken, right. It's clearly not the way it should be.

Rob Rene: 26:56

So I say all of that to say I went back and researched all the ingredients in the Bible. How can I make something just really special that no one else has created? And I couldn't find anything that was in the Bible that people hadn't already released, right, as some product in some way. So I'm just like, lord, help me, maybe combine them in a special way or maybe something to make it really different that can really help people. And the Lord led me to this practitioner in California who's been working with molecular hydrogen for decades, and when he and I started talking, he wanted to market a product in the biblical way and I wanted to have this special component to my creation and we agreed to put them together.

Rob Rene: 27:46

And so what's really amazing is we took the seven best biblical ingredients that complement what molecular hydrogen does inside your body. And it's just fascinating when you learn the power of molecular hydrogen inside your body. It acts as a master antioxidant, so it gets rid of the blood, the free radicals that are inside your bloodstream and exit, you know, helps them, exit, exodus, right. It literally gets rid of the bad and get. It gets you out into the promised land, right, and the promised land, from your body's perspective, is better health. So we want to get you out of the old you and and we call it, exit the old you and get into the new you. This with with a vibrant health. And so that's what we've done.

Rob Rene: 28:30

We created these seven biblical ingredients we used you got barley grass, organic barley grass, organic wheat grass, saffron Saffron's very good for stress relief. Organic barley grass and wheat grass really give you all the nutrients that you need in the day, so you don't need to take one of those green shakes every day. You have it with Exodus. It gives you the nutrients, and then you have saffron, which helps you with stress, and you know anxiety and stress is a huge problem in our society, so that's a really awesome part of the product. You have cumin, aloe, frankincense and myrrh and the combination of those really help with inflammation reduction. Those really help with information reduction and so a lot of people that have pain, for example you know a lot of pain comes from inflammation. So you know I can't say our product helps with pain, but I can say it does help reduce inflammation, which is a cool thing.

Rob Rene: 29:28

And then you look at the other benefits of hydrogen. Inside the body, hydrogen is the smallest molecule God made and so it's abundant everywhere. But if you can put that inside your bloodstream in a methodical way, like we do, our product is way different than like the. You've probably seen recently has been really popular hydrogen water. So you either put a little pill in water and it creates hydrogen and you drink it, or you have these little bottles that you press a button on it and it creates hydrogen. So those are really popular right now because of all the health benefits of hydrogen, which are great. But the problem with those solutions is that the hydrogen dissipates really quickly. So if you don't drink it like immediately, then you lose all the hydrogen and by the time you actually put it down your esophagus and it gets into your belly and your belly assimilates it. It's also reduced. So the cool thing about our product is it's a capsule. So you take capsule, it goes inside your stomach and we've got this patented blend that, when it interacts with your stomach fluid, your body creates the hydrogen. Since your body is creating it, your body assimilates it much more impactful than any other way to get hydrogen in the body. Then it goes into your bloodstream and starts doing its thing. So it's just such an awesome product.

Rob Rene: 30:55

We started off with a fatigue to vitality solution where we're taking people that have really low energy levels and it helps with dramatically. My brother and I are partners in this business and we both have a personal story with this product specifically. So I have a condition called Bradycardia, which is just a fancy name for a slow beating heart. So my heart, even though because I was a runner, but I don't know if it's because of that for sure but my heart rate is in the low 30s. So people, when they take my heart rate, are like oh my gosh, are you going to pass out and I'm like I've been like this for decades. So, no, I'm not, I'm fine and uh.

Rob Rene: 31:39

I had to go through all these rigmaroles when I'm in a, in a health um situation, cause they think I'm going to pass out and and uh and what they want me to get. Cardiologists want me to get a, um, a pacemaker. So, anyway, the reason why I mentioned brady cardio is about two in the clock in the afternoon I would get exhausted and I'm not getting my body's not getting as much oxygen as most other people because it's not my heart's not beating as fast, so I would have to take a nap every every afternoon. About two o'clock I was like I'm exhausted and uh. So to compensate for that, I used to drink, you know, four shot latte in the morning and four shot latte in the afternoon, and you know that'd give me enough energy to get through the day and I started Exodus and it's so fun because I literally don't need any caffeine and I don't need any caffeine in the afternoon. I'm just like I have the sustained energy. It takes me through the entire day and it's just really relieving and I have nutrients that I need and I'm not stressed out and I have these amazing ingredients in my body. So, just personally, I find it just incredibly amazing that I've been able to create a solution that does this.

Rob Rene: 32:42

And it wasn't me who created it. It was literally the Lord helping, and I look back at my life and I literally can see how he helped me train on all of these things. When I was in sales for 25 years. It was how do you communicate with people? Right, like talking to you right now on camera and with a microphone and knowing that people are going to be watching this. I used to be scared to death to try to get in front of people and talk, and now it's just comfortable to me. I believe he trained me to do that speaking on stages right, I, I'm been teaching masterclasses on on fatigue and and biblical ingredients in the Bible and how helpful they are. And I'm I'm in front of, you know, 50 to a hundred people talking and man, that would have scared me to death, you know. But now this is comfortable, so I can see how he's training me to do this. He's like okay, rob, this is going to be your mission, for for um, your life is to go help people with their health, and then we, we have a really strong mission at at Exodus, where we want to get a million new people to read the word through their health.

Rob Rene: 33:50

So here's our capsules. Right, this is our product. It's a supplement, but, man, it's not like most supplements. Most supplements are just trash. It's made with really bad ingredients and they really don't help people. All it is is just these slimy people in the industry who just want to take people's money. So they want to give you stuff that's really not going to help, but they're going to market it like crazy. It's going to have. They make all these crazy claims and it's going to to help you. And we're just trying to do the opposite. We're like saying we're trying not to make big claims, we're just trying to not make any claims, right, and literally trying not to. But it does help with some really significant portions of things that people have problems with. And then our big mission is to get the million new people to read the word through their health.

Rob Rene: 34:38

So every bottle we send has this fatigue to vitality prayer guide and it's pretty fun because every day of the week it has a different declaration. You need to declare things with your mouth. God told us that there's power in your tongue, so let's use the power of our tongue right. And then it has a Bible verse, and then it has a prayer. So you can see the intention, the Bible verse and the prayer every single day. And then we believe that when you combine that multi-sensory approach by using the supplement inside your body, using your mouth to declare it, your eyes to read it, your ears to hear yourself say it, that you're using four out of your five God-given senses to help you with your health. So we think that's really powerful and going to transform people's lives in a dramatic way.

Chris Grainger: 35:28

Well, that's pretty exciting, rob. Congratulations on all that. I mean, how did you come up picking the scriptures for for that, for that and that?

Rob Rene: 35:35

piece we literally have been. My brother is a biblical um, you know scholar. He loves the bible, um, and he's a minister and he, he did a lot of research. I did a lot of research, right. We came up and we just said what's what we got? To pick seven, right, how do you pick seven out of that amazing Bible?

Rob Rene: 35:52

So we're literally creating different versions of it, right, like right now, this one is a fatigue one, you know, we're going to create one that's for inflammation and we're going to create one that's for, you know, just general health and how to pray for healing, right?

Rob Rene: 36:10

So we're doing all sorts of fun things and we have a really detailed back end where, if you're in, you know, as you come into our world and you say, oh my gosh, isaiah 40, 31, right, but they who wait for the Lord shall renew their strength, they shall mount up with wings like eagles, they shall run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint.

Rob Rene: 36:30

You know that's a neat verse, but a lot of people who aren't familiar with these verses say, hmm, what does that mean? Right? So we've done a fun thing where we've created these Bible study guides beneath that verse, so you can go look at that verse and say, okay, what's the context of that verse? What did they mean back then? And then, not only what does it mean back then, but how do we translate it to us today? And so it's a really fun, you know, half hour study that you can learn more about the word through their health, so that we just super excited about that. Just get people engaged and spending more time in the word, because we believe it's the living word of God, and the more time you spend in it, the more blessed you're going to be, and then, obviously, the more blessed you're going to be to others.

Chris Grainger: 37:18

So amen to that brother, amen. Well, rob, before we wrap up, we'd love to play a lightning round with you. We always do this with our guests, and just to kind of have some fun at the end If you're willing to play along let's go. All right. Well, any hobbies I'm going to take running off the table, because we know you like running, so any hobbies outside of running that you enjoy doing.

Rob Rene: 37:37

You know, what's really fun for me right now is learning all of these AI tools right, and people are like, oh my gosh, ai, that's bad, that's from the devil. It's like no, it's not. God created all this stuff. He's figuring out all these things and man you can. Whatever you train the system to do, that's what it regurgitates, right. So if you train it on good stuff, it'll regurgitate good stuff. So I'm training, creating some, some, uh, basically agents that are biblical agents that teach people how to pray, right, that teach people what verses they should do, and then you know how to pray for.

Chris Grainger: 38:10

Healing is one I'm specifically working on which is a lot of fun, which ones are good? Which one do you enjoy using the most right now? What's your, what's your go-to?

Rob Rene: 38:19

Yeah, right now it's, it's a chat. Gpt with the deep research is really good. And then I've I've been playing with manisim, which is a really cool tool that automates a lot of things, but um and I put this um, um, it's not not many chat. What is the um? The? An agent tool that I'm working on. Anyway, I'm using an agent tool that's, uh, trained.

Rob Rene: 38:44

I can put multiple books within it. So I've researched and created these repositories of books for healing and then I've trained it on what I want to actually have the output to be. And so you can go say you know, geez, I have cancer, how do I pray for my cancer healing? And you can. It will literally come up and give you a seven day plan or a 30 day plan and it'll tell you what you need to do. You need to declare it with your mouth right as, like we talked about earlier, there's power in the tongue. So it's awesome because it just gives you everything you need to do and it's all biblically inspired and biblically based. And you know it's not changing the Bible, because I'm specifically making it, making sure it's authentic, so it's a lot of fun.

Chris Grainger: 39:34

Very cool. Let's shift from the mouth to the stomach. What's your favorite food? What's your go-to?

Rob Rene: 39:39

Oh my gosh. That depends on whether I'm trying to really be good with my health. Right now I'm on a really strict keto diet. I love a good old eggs and bacon breakfast. I'm going to use that as my go-to.

Chris Grainger: 39:54

There you go, there you go. What about an all-time favorite movie? If you get a couple hours to sit back and kick on the TV, what's your go-to movie there?

Rob Rene: 40:03

Probably Top Gun. So good, I'd probably say the chosen recently, because I'm just enamored with that series, as it's been so much fun to see the the biblical word come to life was just life transforming for me because I'd always read the word, but we see it like acted out in front of you it's like that literally could have been how it was.

Rob Rene: 40:24

That's so cool, but you know, from a really fun perspective, I just love Toppen, right, it's like I love speed and I love winning and I love, you know, getting the girl in the end.

Chris Grainger: 40:35

I love all that. The second one was the Maverick was awesome, and then I hear they're bringing a third one.

Rob Rene: 40:41

Oh, that would be fun. I haven't heard that that's going to be fun too, so for sure.

Chris Grainger: 40:47

So, when you look back for maybe the last 12 months, what did you spend too much time doing, rob?

Rob Rene: 40:54

That's a really, really good question. I would say boring. I'm building a small business right, trying to grow a kingdom business, and it's been very, very, very difficult and so there's been so many hurdles and so many things and I'm just haven't done, I haven't done well enough of just giving it to him right. I'm trying to do that. I really work hard every day to do that. But, man, I'm worried too much.

Rob Rene: 41:17

So I know that, uh, like I said, it's all his right. So if I lose everything I have, it doesn't matter, because it's all his anyway. So, but man, it's just you get that little gut feeling in your gut. It's like, man, what if right? What if this happens? What if that happens? Or what if I can't make this payment? Or you know what if I? You know this employee doesn't work out, or you know just so many dumb things that I I should not worry about it. I should just continue to lay him on his feet and just pray and just keep following his direction. If I follow his direction, he's going to lead me in the right path.

Chris Grainger: 41:50

Right. A hundred percent, brother. Thank you for being transparent there. When you think about God. What's your favorite thing about him, rob?

Rob Rene: 42:00

Just his peace and understanding. Right, that's like wraps. He wraps his arms around you and just hugs you, like you, when you need it, right, when you need it most. Yeah, amen, I've needed that a lot of times and having having those arms around you are pretty awesome it's pretty awesome, brother.

Chris Grainger: 42:19

Yeah, let's flip it 180. What's your least favorite thing about the evil one?

Rob Rene: 42:24

Oh my gosh, this is the how he can deceive my children, right, how he can deceive anybody, how he can deceive me. But, man, it just pisses me off that, you know, he can get to my children in a way that I can't stop, but just really pisses me off that he's able to deceive them in ways that they don't see and they do things they shouldn't do. And it's like, man, I wish you had the armor on all the time that I've been trying to teach you to have, and if you had that armor on, he couldn't attack you. So I'm just trying to get them to understand that they have the power to get rid of him and not follow him and not trust him. But he's he's crafty and he's really good at deceiving people, so he does a great job, which pisses me off.

Chris Grainger: 43:14

Amen, bro, amen. Well, the last one here is what do you hope the guys listening remember the most from our conversation today? Rob?

Rob Rene: 43:23

Just that God is good, right, and if we follow him and do as he asks, he will lead your steps and he will lead your path.

Rob Rene: 43:32

And to be positive about it, and let's all make a difference, right, if you get off the couch and you can go actually talk to your neighbor, you can talk to your friend or you can call that person you've been meaning to call but you just haven't had time. You have had time. We just don't take time to do things. So let's just get rid of those excuses and let's just start impacting other people's lives, and it can be just a matter of saying hi to a neighbor or just having a conversation with the person at the grocery store who really may need your help, right? So let the Holy Spirit lead you and guide you in your daily life, and he's going to lead you to talk to people that you probably wouldn't have normally talked to, and that may be that one person that really needed you at that specific time and you could transform their life. And you're going to have awards in heaven just by having a simple conversation with somebody you you felt led to talk to that you might not have wanted to amen, amen.

Chris Grainger: 44:31

Well, rob, where do you want the guys to go to connect with you, to learn more about you? Know you directly, as well as exodus, so where do you want to send them?

Rob Rene: 44:39

yeah, I appreciate it. Exodusstrongcom is the name of our business and that's a. That's a the. You know the easiest way to get ahold of me. And then I'm on. I'm on Facebook, you know Rob Renee, and I'm on Instagram and I'm on you know all the different social media platforms. I do use Rob Renee health as my tagline for like Instagram and and others, so great way to get ahold of me.

Chris Grainger: 45:06

Awesome. Well, check it out, fellas. Rob, it's been great having you on the show. Thank you so much for joining today sir, yeah, god bless you.

Rob Rene: 45:12

Sorry, I talked so much.

Chris Grainger: 45:14

You're good brother, you know I can't stop. You have a great day.

Rob Rene: 45:18

You as well. Thanks, chris, god bless you.

Chris Grainger: 45:30

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Chris Grainger: 46:15

The question I want you to really think about, though, is going back to the scripture for Exodus 14, 14. What are you carrying right now that you need to lay before God, and you haven't done it yet? We all have something. Let's just face it. We do as guys. We have something that we're holding on to. We feel like we're trying to bootstrap it. I'm just encouraging you, buddy Whatever that thing is, whatever that thing is, lay it at the foot of the cross, just lay it there and just feel that peace that passes all understanding. So, guys, thank you so much for listening. Hopefully you come back on Friday. We'll have some fun Friday tips for you. Obviously, we'll get into some fun things for you A couple of dad jokes and all the stuff that we usually do on our fun Friday episode.

Chris Grainger: 46:56

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